Izotope Based in Holland and Belgium, Erik Vlietinck is the publisher of the IT Enquirer, a pan-European online publication covering multimedia content production.He also regularly creates online textual and video content for websites of companies across Europe and writes for Photoshop User and occasionally contributes to Post Magazine. Erik has been a freelance writer for over a dozen IT-magazines in Great-Britain, Holland and Belgium.He has written product reports on editorial systems, superwide format UV-curing inkjets, Postscript RIPs and DAM systems. In a studio, you are in control of ambient sound, noise, etc, but when you’re recording interviews, dialogues and music outdoors, it’s a different story.

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Nov 24, 2018  The 32-bit mix engine is state of the art, while the smooth, analog, superior sound quality of the virtual instruments comes from proprietary techniques that provide much higher controller resolution. The reason why Studio One resonates with musicians is simple: PreSonus listens. Studio One supports 32 bit and 64 bit quantization. As we have seen, the quantization noise (error) introduced for 32 bit float is -156 dB with respect to each sample value. This is well outside our hearing range, and since it is also relative to the signal level, we cannot hear it.


Process Precision 64bit or 32bit?
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Subject:Process Precision 64bit or 32bit?
sania4
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I am running S1 Pro on a 32bit Vista PC, what advantages or disadvantages between setting process precision to 32bit vs 64bit? for example when in 32bit mode, does computer use less cpu power? meaning I can use more plugins with lower latency? and sound-wise will 64bit mode produce that much better sound then 32bit mode?
I am new to this processing bits stuff so forgive if I sound funny with my questions.
Subject:Process Precision 64bit or 32bit?
eike
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if you use mainly 3rd-party plugins i'd recommend using 32bit precision, it will be faster. with the included plugins, there won't be that large a difference. just try it.
Subject:Process Precision 64bit or 32bit?
Kahlbert
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eike wrote:if you use mainly 3rd-party plugins i'd recommend using 32bit precision, it will be faster. with the included plugins, there won't be that large a difference. just try it.

Just for clarification: If CPU is no issue, you'd recommend using 64 bit precision in any case?
Subject:Process Precision 64bit or 32bit?
eike
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jein.
really the main point in my personal opinion is the cost of converting between float and double. and there are fx that need to calculate in double. i think fx that offer 64bit-processing-calls will slowly start to emerge since vst 2.4 has introduced this.
regarding fidelity the error in 32bit floating point is generally very very far below what is audible, and where it is important, double precision will be used internally anyway.
there are code-segments that run faster with single precision and other segments that run faster with double. so it really depends on what you use.
you really should test performance differences and sound differences your self. using a high samplerate when doing mixdowns will make a larger difference for sure.
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Thanks a lot! Will consider switching off 64 bit then, since it's unaudible anyway, and my plug-ins most likely can't make use of it.
I tend to disagree on the sample rate remark, though. So far I'm a firm believer that a conversion is likely to destroy the potential benefit unless it is a really, really good one.
That said, years ago I wasted countless hours philosophizing if my plug-in were good enough to make a difference when upsampling for mastering, using them, and downsampling again. (Footnote: This workflow isn't really feasible with the current song/project architecture of Studio One, so I don't think about it anymore .. ).
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LAGinz
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Does going 32 bit or 64 bit internal affect in anyway the 'high quality' option for some of the plugins like Presence?
Separate 32 and 64 bit installations of Studio One 2.6 Prof.: 15' Lenovo 2.4 i7 W530 laptop w/8gb RAM, 1920 X 1080 screen rez; Windows 7 64 Bit SP1. Backup computer same brand and specs., other than it is E520 dual core, i5 with 1366 X 768 screen rez.
Subject:Process Precision 64bit or 32bit?
sania4
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eike wrote:
using a high samplerate when doing mixdowns will make a larger difference for sure.

So basically it does make sense to record and mix at 32bit precession to allow more processing power and when performing a final mixdown switching to 64bit.
by the way my computer is: core2duo 2.66ghz, 4Gb, 32 bit vista (not the fastest but still does what it suppose to)
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The controversy about whether people can tell the difference on playback between audio recorded at 96 kHz that’s played back at 44.1 kHz or a higher sample rate (such as 96 kHz) has never really been resolved. However, under some circumstances, recording at a higher sample rate can give an obvious, audible improvement in sound quality. In this week’s tip we’ll investigate why this happens, and in next week’s tip, tell how to obtain the benefits of recording at a higher sample rate in Studio One with 44.1 and 48 kHz projects.

REALLY? CONVINCE ME!

A Song’s sample rate can make a difference with sounds generated “in the box,” for instance using a virtual instrument plug-in that synthesizes a sound, or distortion created by an amp simulator. Any improvement heard with high sample rates comes from eliminating foldover distortion, also known as aliasing.

Theory time: A digital system can accurately represent audio at frequencies lower than half the sampling rate (e.g., 22.05 kHz in a 44.1 kHz project). If an algorithm within a plug-in generates harmonic content above this Nyquist limit—say, at 40 kHz—then you won’t hear a 40 kHz tone, but you will hear the aliasing created when this tone “folds down” below the Nyquist limit (to 4.1 kHz, in this case). Aliasing thus appears within the audible range, but is harmonically unrelated to the original signal, and generally sounds pretty ugly.

Foldover distortion can happen with synthesized waveforms that are rich in harmonics, like pulse waves with sharp rise and fall times. (Amp sims can also be problematic; although their harmonics may be weak, if you’re applying 60 dB of gain to create overdrive or distortion, the harmonics can be strong enough to cause audible aliasing).

SO IS IT A PROBLEM, OR NOT?

Not all plug-ins will exhibit these problems, for one of four reasons:

  • The audio isn’t rich enough in harmonics to cause audible aliasing.
  • The plug-in itself can oversample, which means that as far as the plug-in is concerned, the sample rate is higher than that of the Song. So, any foldover distortion occurs outside the audio range.
  • The project sample rate is high enough to provide the same kind of environment as oversampling.
  • The plug-in designers have built appropriate anti-alias filtering in to the algorithms.

Studio One 4 32 Bit Float Valve

Many modern virtual instruments and amp sims oversample, and DAWs can handle higher sample rates, so you’d think that might be the end of it. Unfortunately, there can be limitations with oversampling and higher project sample rates.

  • Recording an entire project at a higher sample rate stresses out your computer more, reduces the number of audio channels you can stream, and won’t allow you to run as many plug-ins.
  • Oversampling requires more CPU power, so even if all your instruments are oversampling internally, you may not be able to use as many instances of them.
  • Although some instruments may perform 2x oversampling, that still might not be sufficient to eliminate aliasing on harmonically rich sources—so oversampling an oversampled instrument can still make a difference.

Studio One 4 32 Bit Float Definition

Furthermore, with plug-ins that oversample, the sound quality will be influenced by the quality of the sample-rate conversion algorithms. It’s not necessarily easy to perform high-quality sample-rate conversion: check out comparisons for various DAWs at http://src.infinitewave.ca (where, incidentally, Studio One rates as one of the best), and remember that the conversion algorithms for a plug-in might be more “relaxed” than what’s used in a DAW.

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So what’s a musician to do? In next week’s Friday Tip of the Week, we’ll cover how to do upsampling in Studio One to reap the benefits of high-sample-rate recording at lower sample rates. Meanwhile, if you still need to be convinced recording at different sample rates makes a difference, check out this audio example of a synthesizer recorded in Studio One first at 44.1 kHz, and then at 96 kHz:

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